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i Chicago (Tribune Sunday, December 20, 1981 Sectiqo 2 AMI X. iKD UDQ CJ lill 1 IllflP-illlllSsv Lasrglimpses of Lech Walesa IT foreign union leader and he offered to us. I am very grateful for that; I am grateful for all kinds of help, for we really need that support from abroad. But I am even more grateful for the understanding that particular union i leader showed. Understanding for the situation that a revolution is taking place here, a revolution that so far hasn't been violent.

But just like in a violent revolution" things are being smashed by tanks and machine guns, so are things being destroyed in this bloodless revolution. And that costs money. In any case, I am very happy with those offers of help from i. A profile of Walesa. Page 2.

within minutes. I didn't receive a higher education, I am only an ordinary worker, but I do believe that I can think logically, and that is what I am trying to do. What, in your oplonlon. Is at present the biggest threat to Solidarity? A Our power. We have grown into a powerful organization so fast that we have to take care not to get caught in the same trap as did those in power in Warsaw.

We'll have to think carefully about a better control over our course of action, about a greater responsibility toward our rank and file. Otherwise we'll be just as authoritative as the Communist Party. That is well spoken, but I have also heard it mentioned that Solidarity has lost much of its popularity with the population. A I agree. Until recently.

Our popularity dropped from 90 percent to 60 per-, cent. People were disappointed by lack of spectacular results. But the government substantially boosted our popularity by its recent sharp attacks on Solidarity. That wave of propaganda improved our position considerably, and I earnestly thank the government for that. Free elections are one of the main demands of Solidarity.

But would that not also mean the end of the Communist Party in Poland? A Yes, many people are anxious now to save their skins, but in my genuine opinion that is unjustified, because our actions are not aimed at people but at certain structures: I believe that many people who are now functioning poorly would show to much better advantage in another structure; But that other structure supposes control by insight from the ordinary people, the workers, and that is the ultimate goal of our struggle. Onno Rettjtna, a writer or Holland's Elsevier magazine, was in Poland when the military took command a week ago. Only hour before, Reitsma had obtained an exclusioe interview with Lech Walesa, the Solidarity leader. Reitsma used his tourist visa to escape from Poland through East Germany. Following is his interview with Walesa in Gdansk: where Solidarity was conducting.o congress.

Onno Reitsma Mr. Walesa, when I met you here for the first time, you were only a strike leader, but In the meantime you have become a powerful man. What does power mean to you? Lech Walesa Power is only impor-. taitt as an instrument for service to the, powerless. All I want is for our government td share that view.

Those powerless have the strike action as their only means of power, and they used this means so effectively during the last 18 months that Poland's economy has slowly been torn to rags. A Strike action certainly isn't our only means. I can think of many other actions: For instance, like no longer paying rents to the state or no longer paying fees for viewing television. It would be impossible for the gov. ernment to evict about half the population.

And it would be equally hard to make watching television impossible, for 'whom, could the government reach with its propaganda against Solidarity? You see there are plenty of other possibilities than strike action alone. But talking of striking, I can imagine -there are people in the Western world who say, "Why don't those Poles Just resume, work?" Yesterday I spoke to a abroad. Recently you were reported to have said that you were prepared to accept government responsibility. Are you still of that opinion? A I didn't put it so strongly. What I have said was that it would be marvelous to accept that responsibility, something of which you can only dream, and am still of that opinion.

Not as a real possibility, but as a daring thought. Repeatedly you commented nega-'tlvely on the behavior of the Polish farmers. Why Is that? They have 'their prob-, lems, too. A Together with intellectuals, farmers are the most difficult people to with. Farmers only think of themselves.

And intellectuals need hours, to reach the same conclusions I come to i 2 mmm Pnotc by Henri BurMuSygmt At Solidarity's last congress in Gdansk a week ago, a elections, and access to the media the move that frustrated Lech Walesa and his moderate camp huddled finally forced martial law. Walesa had warned the as militant dissenters pushed through a resolution resolution was too provocative. At top, a quieter moment calling for a vote on Poland's political future, free during the congress left Walesa time to read. The Daley legacy Dramatic changes since the Boss died By Robert Davis FIVE YEARS ago, Mayor Richard J. Daley, father of the city of Chicago for more than 20 years, fell over dead in his doctor's office on North Michigan Immediately, heads of state, high government officials and the man on.

the street began their tributes hie would never be forgotten, they said. But now it is 1981, There are some physical mn ")' I'" jjiii.mii mum Umiwuii iulu.ihiiuiii.ii I i'0 ViS lZ V. 3 2 'v i i v. i The son is ready to rise someday By Bonita Brodt HIS HAIR WAS MUSSED, his raincoat wrin-kled, and on a cold November day a year ago, the Son of Boss looked more like a wide-eyed little kid on his first day of school than like the county's top prosecutor. He stood outside the Criminal Courts building on the city's West Side, taking in all the grungy sights around him, then briskly walked up to the front door.

His face turned crimson when a pot-bellied guard reached inside his coat, patted him down and searched him, just like he would anybody else. "That's Richie Daley, you barked a policeman standing watch in the lobby. Said a voice from a gathering group: "I voted for him just like I always voted for his father." Smoothing his hair, Richard M. said his hellos, then walked toward the elevators that took him to what became an awkward exploration of his new domain. That was a year ago.

Today, things are different. It was 8 a.m., and the Son of Boss was sitting Continued on following page Bonita Brodt is a Tribune reporter liiho covert Criminal Court, The Democratic party without Daley. Page monuments to the man who would never be forgotten. His name is on the Civic Center, which had been built before his death. And a South Side city, college, also under construction at his death, bears his name as well.

A little-used park near Lake Shore Drive is called the Daley Bicentennial Plaza and a Bet of Continued on following page Robert Davis is The Tribune's City HdU reporter, i.